{"id":2579,"date":"2012-10-10T22:35:07","date_gmt":"2012-10-11T02:35:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.noahgreenstein.com\/wordpress\/?p=2579"},"modified":"2012-10-10T22:35:07","modified_gmt":"2012-10-11T02:35:07","slug":"the-carnival-is-dead-long-live-the-carnival","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.noahgreenstein.com\/wordpress\/2012\/10\/10\/the-carnival-is-dead-long-live-the-carnival\/","title":{"rendered":"The Carnival is Dead. Long Live The Carnival."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I have almost no philosophical associations at this point. I have been out of school for years and my philosophical interests have little impact on how I feel about philosophies and philosophers on which I don&#8217;t work. One of the things I have tried to live by is that I don&#8217;t know where the next interesting thought will come from.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, if I have experience with individuals or philosophies then I can make determinations about their worth.<\/p>\n<p>I run this philosophy blog which has a <strong>very<\/strong> limited readership. It is always fun to host a <a title=\"Philosophy Carnival\" href=\"http:\/\/philosophycarnival.blogspot.com\/\">philosophy carnival<\/a>, which I have <a title=\"63rd Philosophers\u2019 Carnival\u2019s a Laugh\" href=\"http:\/\/www.noahgreenstein.com\/wordpress\/2008\/02\/18\/63rd-philosophers-carnivals-a-laugh\/\">done<\/a> <a title=\"BoNG: Philosophy Carnival #2\" href=\"http:\/\/www.noahgreenstein.com\/wordpress\/2011\/08\/08\/philosophy-carnival-2\/\">three<\/a> <a title=\"Philosophy Carnival 141\" href=\"http:\/\/www.noahgreenstein.com\/wordpress\/2012\/04\/23\/philosophy-carnival-141\/\">times<\/a>, and get a boost in traffic. By a vast amount, the link <a title=\"Leiter Reports\" href=\"http:\/\/leiterreports.typepad.com\/\">Brian Leiter <\/a>placed on his blog provided the most visitors.\u00a0 And it is no secret that his blog is the most, or at least one of the most, trafficked philosophy blogs.<\/p>\n<p>So when he did not link to my <a title=\"Philosophy Carnival 141\" href=\"http:\/\/www.noahgreenstein.com\/wordpress\/2012\/04\/23\/philosophy-carnival-141\/\">last carnival<\/a>, I thought it was a mistake, but then it dawned on me that he could be angry that I had posted <a href=\"http:\/\/choiceandinference.com\/2012\/04\/17\/manufactured-assent-the-philosophical-gourmet-reports-sampling-problem\/\">links<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/choiceandinference.com\/2012\/04\/19\/more-on-the-educational-imbalance-within-the-pgr-evaluator-pool\/\">to<\/a> something that was critical of <a title=\"The Philosophical Gourmet Report\" href=\"http:\/\/www.philosophicalgourmet.com\/\">The Philosophical Gourmet Report<\/a>, which he runs.\u00a0 As I said above, there is no conspiracy here, I just thought the posts were interesting. Then he did not link to further carnivals, which removed major support from the carnival. The explanation given on the <a title=\"Philosophers' Carnival #144 + Statement of New Direction \" href=\"http:\/\/sprachlogik.blogspot.com\/2012\/10\/philosophers-carnival-144-statement-of.html\">new philosophy carnival is that Dr. Leiter was unhappy with the quality of the philosophy carnivals<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>This is nonsense.\u00a0 The philosophy carnivals have been about the same for years.\u00a0 Also, I put a good deal of effort into my carnival and made sure to have lots of high quality links. Dr. Leiter himself put up a link to the <a title=\"Leiter Reports: Philosophical Theories Explained in Shapes\" href=\"http:\/\/leiterreports.typepad.com\/blog\/2012\/05\/philosophical-theories-explained-in-shapes.html\">same philosophy posters<\/a> that I had used in my carnival. Moreover, if Dr. Leiter is happy to <a title=\"I have to agree with Spiros...\" href=\"http:\/\/leiterreports.typepad.com\/blog\/2012\/06\/i-have-to-agree-witih-spiros-1.html\">regularly<\/a> <a title=\"Proof that it's the dog days of summer...\" href=\"http:\/\/leiterreports.typepad.com\/blog\/2012\/06\/proof-that-its-the-dog-days-of-summer.html\">link<\/a> <a title=\"Leiter Reports: Kids ain't reading and righting so good these days...\" href=\"http:\/\/leiterreports.typepad.com\/blog\/2012\/09\/kids-aint-reading-and-righting-so-good-these-days.html\">to<\/a> <a title=\"Philosopher's Anonymous\" href=\"http:\/\/philosophersanon.blogspot.com\/\">Philosopher&#8217;s Anonymous<\/a>, which is often enough a <a title=\"Break\" href=\"http:\/\/philosophersanon.blogspot.com\/2012\/06\/break.html\">philosophical<\/a> <a title=\"Chill, please\" href=\"http:\/\/philosophersanon.blogspot.com\/2012\/06\/chill-please.html\">bitchfest<\/a> (not that I am saying there is anything wrong with P.A.), he isn&#8217;t in the least worried about &#8220;philosophical quality.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I really can&#8217;t speculate on his exact motives, but, whatever they are, it is odd that the issues are so big that he is willing to be so petty. The carnival provides an opportunity for anyone to write something philosophically interesting and then have an audience, if only the carnival host. It is noble in its modest goal. There is no reason not to support it, even if some random person on the internet links to something critical of something you work on, or you don&#8217;t like some of what gets posted.<\/p>\n<p>Regardless of these issues, I am happy to see the return of the <a title=\"Philosophy Carnival\" href=\"http:\/\/philosophycarnival.blogspot.com\/\">Philosophy Carnival<\/a>. Hopefully the <a title=\"Philosophers' Carnival #144 + Statement of New Direction\" href=\"http:\/\/sprachlogik.blogspot.com\/2012\/10\/philosophers-carnival-144-statement-of.html\">new direction<\/a> will inspire greater participation and, importantly, support.<\/p>\n<p>EDIT: Maybe I&#8217;m just pissed because it looks like I killed it seeing as I was the last regular post before it went on hiatus and then spluttered.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I have almost no philosophical associations at this point. I have been out of school for years and my philosophical interests have little impact on how I feel about philosophies and philosophers on which I don&#8217;t work. One of the things I have tried to live by is that I don&#8217;t know where the next interesting thought will come from. 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