05.22.09

The Non-Reducibility & Scientific Explanation Problem

Posted in biology, epistemology, evolution, independence friendly logic, ontology, philosophy, physics, science at 9:23 pm by nogre


Q: What is a multiple star system?

A: More than one star in a non-reducible mutual relationship spinning around each other.

Q: How did it begin?

A: Well, I guess, the stars were out in space and at some point they became close in proximity.  Then their gravitations caused each other to alter their course and become intertwined.

Q: How did the gravitations cause the courses of the stars to become intertwined?  Gravity does one thing: it changes the shape of space-time; it does not intertwine things.

A: That seems right.  It is not only the gravities that cause this to happen.  It is both the trajectory and mass (gravity) of the stars in relation to each other that caused them to form a multiple star system.

Q: Saying that it is both the trajectories and the masses in relation to each other is not an answer.  That is what is in need of being explained.

A: You are asking the impossible.  I have already said that the relation is non-reducible.  I am not going to go back upon my word in order to reduce the relation into some other relation to explain it to you.  The best that can be done is to describe it as best we can.

Here is the problem: If you have a non-reducible relation (e.g., a 3-body problem or a logical mutual interdependence) then you cannot explain how it came to exist.  Explaining such things would mean that the relation was reducible.  But being unable to explain some scientific phenomenon violates the principle of science: we should be able to explain physical phenomenon.  Then the relation must not be non-reducible or it must have been a preexisting condition going all the way back to the origin of the universe.  Either you have a contradiction or it is unexplainable by definition.

What can we do?  You can hold out for a solution to the 3-body-problem or, alternatively, you can change what counts as explanation.  The latter option is the way to go, though, I am not going into this now.

For now I just want to illustrate that this problem of non-reducibility and explanation is pervasive:

Q: What is a biological symbiotic relationship?

A: More than one organism living in a non-reducible relationship together.

Q: How did it begin?

A: Well, I guess, the organisms were out in nature and at some point they became close in proximity.  Then their features caused each other to alter their evolution and become intertwined.

Q: How did the features cause the courses of their evolution to become intertwined?  Physical features do one thing: they enable an organism to reproduce; they do not intertwine things.

A: That seems right.  It is not only the features that cause this to happen.  It is both the ecosystem and the features of the organisms in relation to each other that caused them to form a symbiosis.

Q: Saying that it is both the place the organisms are living in and their features in relation to each other is not an answer.  That is what is in need of being explained.

A: You are asking the impossible.  I have already said that the relation is non-reducible.  I am not going to go back upon my word in order to reduce the relation into some other relation to explain it to you.  The best that can be done is to describe it as best we can.

As you can see, I am drawing a parallel between a multiple body problem and multiple organisms that live together.  Like the star example above, there is no way to explain the origins of organisms living together.  Even in the most basic case it is impossible.

 


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05.21.09

Relevance

Posted in philosophy at 1:38 am by nogre


Apropos my previous post, it was suggested that the single most confusing aspect of philosophy explaining why philosophy is relevant.  Can we justify ourselves?

I figure that no one is worrying about medical ethics.  What about metaphysics, obscure logic, and all the other good stuff that us philosophers call our own?  If we can justify that stuff to the general public, then I figure we’re OK for everything else too.

The things people care about here and now are generally the basics of life: food, water, safety, and, if their lucky, to have some sort of opportunity for a better life for themselves and their family.  For something to be relevant means that it has to directly affect someone along these lines.

I suppose there are a few ways to try to connect philosophy with the basics of life.  Perhaps the shortest is through fear.  If someone is nervous about something, then it is relevant to that person.  Philosophy can be some scary stuff:  You have some core beliefs?  Let me show you how they aren’t worth a damn.  You think you are a good person?  Here’s why you’re not.  You think you are sane?  Don’t be so sure about it…

Basically we have to get mean.

It’s not that people’s core beliefs are worthless or that they actually are bad people or anything else.  It’s just that with enough obscure argumentation skill, you can take things away from people that most people don’t think can be taken away.  (And then also teach how to protect oneself from such attacks. )  This would solve questions about relevance.

 


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05.16.09

What is the Single Worst Understood Philosophical Concept?

Posted in philosophy, random idiocy at 4:59 pm by nogre


I’d like to get anyone’s opinion about what he or she believes to be the single worst understood philosophical concept.    Feel free to mention why you think so if you want.  Also feel free to interpret the meaning of ‘worst’: across the general public, academia, grad students, old codgers, whatever (but do identify your target, please).

 


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